February 11, 2017 at 4:58 pm #789
Did people find help for their addictions before the 1930’s and subsequent publishing of “The Big Book”? Or did Christianity (and Catholicism in particular) have the power to change the lives of the addicted before then that has since been replaced by the ubiquitous “12-Steps”?
If one has to attend a miserable meeting 2-3 times a week for life because it is the only hope out there, then count me out. A “solution” like this only drives one to “hold to a form of godliness while denying the power thereof” (2Tim3:5).February 11, 2017 at 7:47 pm #790
HALLELUIA, HALLELUIA!! Finally, someone speaking some, (or THE), truth about A.A. I have been involved with “The Program” for over two decades. SO, I do not want to disparage any of the wonderful people who have helped me, as well as, have been/are my dear friends to this very day. However, with that being said, “A.A. IS NOT THE ONLY WAY TO STAY SOBER…..AND, IT IS CERTAINLY NOT THE ONLY WAY TO GOD!!!!!!! I still occasionally attend A.A. meetings, although, I now attend meetings on the terms that “work for me”. I prefer to access A.A. as a place to meet people with the same problem that I once had, and to HOPEFULLY discuss a GENERAL and MEANINGFUL topic towards “Enlightenment”. I DO NOT use A.A. as my religion…FOR THAT, I AM DEDICATED TO MY (OUR) RELIGION; CATHOLICISM. I get so tired, AND VERY FRUSTRATED at hearing people directly or indirectly disparaging anyone who finds fault with A.A.’s religion. I AM A CATHOLIC, FIRST AND FOREMOST, AND NOT A DYED-IN-THE-WOOL A.A.’ER. Therefore, I simply attend, occasional, local meetings, with the COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING that A.A. meetings are a place to LOOK (and I emphasise LOOK) for some insight…and to offer some. I also understand, that I am not bound by A.A. in any regard, and that I am free to leave any meeting, at any time, that I feel that it is disparaging to my beliefs and/or values for a “better way” (their way) (or the co-founders way). I AM A DISCIPLE OF JESUS CHRIST…..AND NO OTHER. MY RELIGION AND GUIDE IS THE HOLY APOSTOLIC CATHOLIC CHURCH, DOCTRINE, WAY, BELIEF, AND PHILOSOPHY. So, with that as my ONLY ULTIMATE UNDERSTANDING…. I Am Safe To Attend An A.A. Meeting At Anytime. I can only pray and direct those who do not have…and are in need of, The Catholic Church. Thank You For Your Post, Please Have a Wonderful Day, Peace and Love, Danny-February 11, 2017 at 8:23 pm #791
Thank you for your reply. I posted a bit out of frustration and took the “either-or” position. I find the way you approach A.A. as balanced and as an adjunct to the MAIN thing – Our Faith. There is a part of me that doesn’t want to work through the problem and am always looking for an instantaneous, miraculous healing. I believe this happens for some folks, but our Lord usually works in ways that are above ours which involve change over time. If I would be fair I would have to admit that A.A. is a tool used by Him, and I like the way you use it as just that – a tool – not a replacement for our rich faith.
Peace be with you!
JeffMarch 23, 2017 at 6:55 am #899
I don’t see it as a ball and chain because it isn’t about me. This is from someone who didn’t attend meetings for 10 years and I realized how selfish I had become. I was told in the beginning to give it away not any different from my Christian faith.August 8, 2017 at 3:29 pm #963
Hoping that someone from Catholic in Recovery will answer this question. Is Catholic in Recovery a “baptized” version of 12 steps?
I guess you’d have to remove “God as we understand Him” and replace with “Holy Trinity” or simply “God”, or “God as he reveled Himself to us through His Church”, etc. The term “higher power” needs to just go away.
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